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PF Flyers:
Also you must consider that the last 4 bikes were won by attendees. Lol

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HawkGTRider:

--- Quote from: PF Flyers on July 19, 2018, 12:08:45 PM ---Also you must consider that the last 4 bikes were won by attendees. Lol

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When the majority of tickets, or close to it, are being sold at STAR, it only makes sense that the winner is likely to be there. Seems like we had a lot of years when the winner was not there, and those years correspond to the years when more tickets were sold outside of STAR. All of that is pretty easy to understand.

In a slightly different direction, I wonder if we should go to a bi-annual (or even less frequent) bike raffle. Perhaps doing it less than every year would make it more interesting by adding more anticipation. Perhaps we're just getting a bit of "overload" when we're talking about next year's raffle almost as soon as this one is done. It would allow for more planning, longer to make a bike selection, etc. I used to think the bike raffle was a club member "benefit", but I've come to realize it's more of a benefit for the association itself (assuming you can separate the two). If we're struggling to make money on the bike raffle, something needs to change.

Landon:

--- Quote from: HawkGTRider on July 19, 2018, 01:14:54 PM ---
 If we're struggling to make money on the bike raffle, something needs to change.

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Absolutely. If we cannot turn a profit we shouldn't do it. It doesn't help that membership declines and bike prices continue to rise. Simple economics, it makes the bike raffle tough to survive.

Patmo:
I wish there was a way to verify this..... it is  my guess that the majority of tickets sold pre-STAR the last few years were to people planning to attend STAR.   But that’s just a guess on my part.

We know for sure that last year the sales AT STAR were 2X what we sold pre-STAR.

brider:

--- Quote from: Patmo on July 19, 2018, 04:42:23 PM ---I wish there was a way to verify this..... it is  my guess that the majority of tickets sold pre-STAR the last few years were to people planning to attend STAR.   But that’s just a guess on my part.

We know for sure that last year the sales AT STAR were 2X what we sold pre-STAR.

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I'm going to sound like a old man here but back when I was running the raffle and we did the mailing we sold a lot of tickets in advance each year.  I would guess 1/2 of the total.  The last year I ran it we did the discounted advance tickets and that drove a lots of sales even with it being electronic.  However we promoted it on the club website a bunch.    Last couple of years I think we have slipped away from promoting the raffle the way we used to do it.   I don't recall seeing any promotion on here or the devils spawn (FB)  Yes I think FB is a lousy tool for the club.)   My guess is Tom had similar results when he ran the raffle. 
 
Point of all this is if you look back to my original post everyone seems to be avoiding the best and maybe only way to make money year after year on a raffle bike.  We really need to look at opening it up to outside the club.  Its a 2 fold win for MSTA.  Profits go to the club and we just might gain some members in the process.   

Hell yes I would love to win a discounted bike (notice I did not say free.  It doesn't exist)  but its time we got real.  We made little to no profit on a great low price point M/C this year and people complained that the raffle folks were pushy.   Time to make a change. 

Flame suit on again. 

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