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stevegrab:

--- Quote from: Patmo on July 19, 2018, 04:42:23 PM ---I wish there was a way to verify this..... it is  my guess that the majority of tickets sold pre-STAR the last few years were to people planning to attend STAR.   But that’s just a guess on my part.

We know for sure that last year the sales AT STAR were 2X what we sold pre-STAR.

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Just curious, are these number of tickets or ticket revenue?  Because I figure many of the pre-STAR tickets were sold at a discount($8 vs. $10), so ticket revenue may be a better measure.

One thing I haven't seen discussed is the Aerostitch suit (2nd prize, need to be present) I presume the club pays for that, somewhere in the 800-1000 range. Would dropping that be something we consider, to help break even or make more?

I agree if we are having trouble breaking even on a cheaper bike, we need to do something. Opening it up to non MSTA might be the answer, but that comes with its own set of issues.

Patmo:

--- Quote from: stevegrab on July 19, 2018, 05:28:39 PM ---
Just curious, are these number of tickets or ticket revenue?  Because I figure many of the pre-STAR tickets were sold at a discount($8 vs. $10), so ticket revenue may be a better measure.

One thing I haven't seen discussed is the Aerostitch suit (2nd prize, need to be present) I PRESUME the club pays for that, somewhere in the 800-1000 range. Would dropping that be something we consider, to help break even or make more?

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Answers....


Dollars,,,because that’s what Tim can give us.  This year was the FIRST year that the sales at STAR exceeeded the pre-STAR sales.  Last year it was close to even. But the year before, and all of the prior years that we have numbers on, it was HUGELY n favor of PRE-STAR.  Sometimes as much as 10:1.

I did unintentionally misrepresent the actual ratio of pre-STAR to STAR sales.  I went back an rechecked the numbers Tim sent out last week.  The ratio was smaller, but we did have $1400 MORE in sales AT STAR, then we did in sales prior to STAR......that’s not an additional 1400 in sales at STAR, it’s that we matched the pre-sales dollars and then did 1400 dollars more.  (I hope that is clear).  At 10.00 per ticket that’s 100-140 more tickets being sold during STAR then were sold in all of the months prior.

You presume wrong.. :) .  Aerostitch DONATES the certificate every year.  The tire set certificates are also donated.


The only two years that we have lost money on the raffle were 2016/Vermont, and this past year.  The BMW given out in Vermont was by far the most expensive bike we have raffled off in recent history.  We lost $3677 on that raffle and $239 this past year. This year’s bike cost us a little over 1/2 what the BMW cost us. ( 7500 vs 14,900. ).  EVERY other year it has been a money maker for the club.

RichGrab:

--- Quote from: Patmo on July 19, 2018, 06:36:17 PM ---

You presume wrong.. :) .  Aerostitch DONATES the certificate every year.  The tire set certificates are also donated.



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OK, that is really good to know. I think I have the solution!!! We need to find a sponsor to donate the bike. Simple - right. 8) :trink39: :trink39: :clap: ;D

Patmo:
Here is a few numbers that should concern everyone.....

Including this year, the last 9 bike raffles averaged $13,500 in sales, and it was pretty consistent every year.  One year (Johnson City) we did $18,000* in sales, this year we did $7,000*.  But, if you take that high and low out, we averaged $13,800!

* rounded to the closest 1000

This year we did $7,269.00 in sales.

We can’t explain that drop on the bike alone, or even a drop in #of Members (as that has stabilized over the last 3 years), or lack of effort or generosity on behalf of the STAR attendees and staff.

Patmo:

--- Quote from: RichGrab on July 19, 2018, 07:33:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Patmo on July 19, 2018, 06:36:17 PM ---

You presume wrong.. :) .  Aerostitch DONATES the certificate every year.  The tire set certificates are also donated.



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OK, that is really good to know. I think I have the solution!!! We need to find a sponsor to donate the bike. Simple - right. 8) :trink39: :trink39: :clap: ;D

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Anyone know of a slightly used BMW that is available?  LOL 😂

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