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Main Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: HawkGTRider on January 22, 2022, 06:53:26 PM
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If you're further behind than me in following the Dakar 2022 rally, spoiler alert...don't read any further.
Among the top 10 places, I was pleased to see Honda taking 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 7th places. KTM has been a powerhouse in recent years, and they got 3rd, 9th, and 10th. Yamaha had a fine representation bringing 4th and 8th. And the number 1 surprise for me was Great Britain's Sam Sunderland riding a GasGas for the number 1 spot!
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That'll increase sales for GasGas. Not in my garage however, but good for them. I'm also glad to see Honda do well. Speaking of racing, It's 42 days until the Daytona 200, AMA/MotoAmerica Superbike racing is returning to the 200. 56 days until Spring.
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It was very nice to see they expanded the coverage to an hour. Having said that, there are still too many clips of the same activity. I also wish they were able to lock in a time every day, I had to search everyday to find the time.
Yes, it was good to see all the americans entered this year!
Steve
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Was Sunderland on an Electric GASGAS, or 4 stroke or 2 stroke? I tried to looking on the GASGAS site, but it does not say which bike he was piloting.
I don't know the rules for this race. Maybe they don't even allow electric yet. And if they did, would they allow quick change batteries? Or, like we did until 2 years ago in Formula E Racing at NYC, they would Practice, then Qualify two cars and about half through the 45 min race, come in and switch cars. The current generation of FE cars will last the whole race.
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You do know that GASGAS is owned by KTM.
KTM bought GasGas in 2019
They also own Husqvarna
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Was Sunderland on an Electric GASGAS, or 4 stroke or 2 stroke? I tried to looking on the GASGAS site, but it does not say which bike he was piloting.
I don't know the rules for this race. Maybe they don't even allow electric yet. And if they did, would they allow quick change batteries? Or, like we did until 2 years ago in Formula E Racing at NYC, they would Practice, then Qualify two cars and about half through the 45 min race, come in and switch cars. The current generation of FE cars will last the whole race.
As far as I know, the GasGas was a 4-stroke...definitely not electric. Audi had 3 hybrid-electric cars in the event. While Carlos Sainz got lost one day adding ~2 hours to his time (not due to the car), Stephane Peterhansel suffered massive suspension damage and sat in the desert waiting nearly 4 hours waiting for a support truck to arrive (not due to the drive train.
https://electrek.co/2022/01/03/hopes-of-dakar-victory-dashed-for-audi-rs-q-e-tron-but-it-isnt-the-electric-drive-that-failed/
The Audi cars were very cool to see.
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Gasgas is owned by KTM now. The GasGas team, along with the Husqvarna team, are just extensions of KTM.
The best part this year was 3 Americans in the top 10. Skyler Howes would also have finished int he top team if it were not for injuries he suffered in round 6 or 7, I think. Mason Klein was the highest finishing rookie and a raising star.
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Thanks Geoffrey for the link. That was very interesting. I like seeing those technical systems, which is why I have worked the Formula E races. The technical side makes up for the loud V-8 sounds. In 2019 I worked at Pit In, which was also at the last corner on the front straight. As the cars accelerated down the front straight, just a few feet from me, they sounded like the Storm Troopers from Star Wars. A much better sound than the 1st Generation cars.
With all of that said, I did not buy a Mustang Mach E last year, I got a Mustang Mach 1 with 5.0L, V8, 480 HP and active exhaust. That means it has 4 levels of sound; Quiet, which is quieter than Denise's '06 Mustang GT with V-8. Then there is Normal, Sport, and of course Track, all can be changed on the steering wheel controls.
Quiet is used to back out of the garage and go down the street to not annoy the neighbors with the raw HP.
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His and Her's Mustangs
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Thanks Geoffrey for the link. That was very interesting. I like seeing those technical systems, which is why I have worked the Formula E races. The technical side makes up for the loud V-8 sounds.
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There are a number of other sites discussing the Audi vehicles, but that one seemed like the best combination of race experience and technical info about the cars.
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Here is an article that some of the KTM model s have been purchased by a Spanish company I never heard of.
https://motocrossactionmag.com/gas-gas-saga-continues-now-rieju-buys-the-spanish-made-off-road-line/ (https://motocrossactionmag.com/gas-gas-saga-continues-now-rieju-buys-the-spanish-made-off-road-line/)
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By the way here is a picture of the Gas Gas I had for a few years. I sold it because it kept putting me in the ER.
(https://www.wfr-ridersclub.com/gallery/gasgasjtx320.jpg)
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By the way here is a picture of the Gas Gas I had for a few years. I sold it because it kept putting me in the ER.
We have a fairly active community of trials riders in this area, which I find pretty amazing. Then again, just an hour away in Sequatchie, TN is the Trials Training Center. I think I can continue to get better at riding in an off-road/adventure environment. But I don't think I'll EVER get any good at trials riding. The good guys doing that sort of thing are riding GODS.
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"I sold it because it kept putting me in the ER."
The reminds me of 1977 when I was at Mankato Honda as Service Manager, for cycle, autos and power equipment, Honda had a close out sale on MR250. I bought one and learned the hard way by going out in the woods, hills and rivers with some fellow co-workers that a few were off road racers. They had me cross a river and when I got to the opposite side, and tried to make the steep bank, it came over on me and we were both under water with the bike on top of me. Not sure what would have happened if they had not pulled it off of me. The other guys also had trouble with the steep bank.
When I got home, a sore knee turned into a big gash that needed stitches and the surgeon sewed sand inside and I got a big infection that put me out of work for about a week, not being able to walk.
That is only one of the incidences that I had with the MR250.
I kept if for another year and someone in the shop wanted it and it was gone to a happy home. In the meantime Denise found a used CB350 4cyl, and I also got back to street bikes.
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In my teenage years my dream was to become a motocross champion. Roger Decoster and Brad Lackey were my heros. I only rode dual sport bikes from 1970 to 1980. But in 1974 I lost the vision in my left eye. I really enjoy off road riding but the lack of depth perception makes me ride like a grandma. But the Gas Gas had so much torque I could not restrain myself. Power wheelies in 4th gear! We have three acres of woods with a ravine running through it. I made a pretty technical trials section and was getting fairly good and having a blast until late on afternoon I caught a root with my front wheel and got pitched into an embankment landing on my left shoulder. The shaft of my humerus was jammed a quarter inch into the head. Our small town ER did not have an Orthopedist available and just put me in a sling, gave me demerol and told me to see an orthopedist the next day. By the next day the break had set but was in good alignment so we just let it heal that way. So my left arm is a quarter inch shorter than my right. The Gas Gas stayed in the woods for several days until a riding friend came and retrieved it for me.
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I have not been kind to my body during my short off road riding career...nuf said.
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For a number of years I've been describing myself as a dirt-bike-wannabe. You guys are about to convince me that, especially at my age, being a wannabe without actually doing it, is probably a good plan.
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I have not been kind to my body during my short off road riding career...nuf said.
Weren't some of those "off road" incidents while street riding ;)
I recall something about the Tiger, either Tri-STAR or FCR.
But honestly, kudos to any of you who partake in the off road stuff, my time to experiment with that has passed. Maybe if I lived somewhere with a playground in my backyard.
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Any size 2 wheeler can have bad endings if not controlled properly. Or should I say, the person in control should always be well alert and remember that there are only 2 wheels and no cage to protect you, and also be sober.
I will never forget the first year that the V-65 Magna and Sabre came out, I was working as the Service Manager and we had sold, I think about 15 that summer. I wrote crash estimates on over half of them. Most of the crashes involved someone other than the owner as the operator. Same old story, owner bragging about the power of his new bike.
Friend not believing him. Maybe a few drinks later, the non-owner convinced the owner to let him take a test ride. He revs it up to dump the clutch and lost it right there, or hung on by his finger tips, and not able to twist the throttle down and eventually crashed.
The CBX 6 cyl was another bike that came on the power curve suddenly and accelerated very fast and a flat seat was hard to stay on if you are not prepared. I personally had that experience while testing a new CBX after the shop prepped it and said, "you can do the test ride". I did not loose it, but I was sure scared.
The moral of the story. Don't let anyone test your new bike, not even your best friend, even if sober.
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I have not been kind to my body during my short off road riding career...nuf said.
Weren't some of those "off road" incidents while street riding ;)
I recall something about the Tiger, either Tri-STAR or FCR.
First let me say they all end up being off road at some point. :o Your memory about the Tiger at Tri Star is correct but all the bad stuff (where i got hurt) have been off road related.