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General Discussion / Re: Dakar 2022
« Last post by dpippin on Yesterday at 10:34:35 PM »
You do know that GASGAS is owned by KTM.
KTM bought GasGas in 2019
They also own Husqvarna
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General Discussion / Re: Dakar 2022
« Last post by Ride4MS on Yesterday at 09:57:54 PM »
Was Sunderland on an Electric GASGAS, or 4 stroke or 2 stroke?  I tried to looking on the GASGAS site, but it does not say which bike he was piloting.

I don't know the rules for this race.  Maybe they don't even allow electric yet.  And if they did, would they allow quick change batteries?  Or, like we did until 2 years ago in Formula E Racing at NYC, they would Practice, then Qualify two cars and about half through the 45 min race, come in and switch cars.  The current generation of FE cars will last the whole race.
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General Discussion / Re: Dakar 2022
« Last post by Steve on Yesterday at 10:42:11 AM »
It was very nice to see they expanded the coverage to an hour. Having said that, there are still too many clips of the same activity. I also wish they were able to lock in a time every day, I had to search everyday to find the time.
Yes, it was good to see all the americans entered this year!

Steve
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General Discussion / Re: Dakar 2022
« Last post by STLTHMSTA on Yesterday at 09:39:06 AM »
That'll increase sales for GasGas. Not in my garage however, but good for them. I'm also glad to see Honda do well.  Speaking of racing, It's 42 days until the Daytona 200, AMA/MotoAmerica Superbike racing is returning to the 200. 56 days until Spring.
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General Discussion / Dakar 2022
« Last post by HawkGTRider on January 22, 2022, 06:53:26 PM »
If you're further behind than me in following the Dakar 2022 rally, spoiler alert...don't read any further.

Among the top 10 places, I was pleased to see Honda taking 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 7th places. KTM has been a powerhouse in recent years, and they got 3rd, 9th, and 10th. Yamaha had a fine representation bringing 4th and 8th. And the number 1 surprise for me was Great Britain's Sam Sunderland riding a GasGas for the number 1 spot!

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Not being a smart ass but, have you been to a BMW dealer?? In person would be a better way to evaluate the differences. I fully understand where you are coming from. That is a lot of moola so you want to choose wisely.  Check with the online magazines and look for road tests or compares that have the stats. Read, read, read. Gain all the info you can.  my .02,  TM
I was thinking the same thing. Getting a test ride would be an even better way to evaluate them, but good luck with those.

Also sounds like the person already "ordered the GTL" so not sure what decision they are trying to make.

I've seen people ride all kinds of bikes aggressively, including big heavy touring bikes like a Gold Wing.

A quick online search turned up an online discussion about the two on the K1600 forum, from spring of 2018
https://www.k1600forum.com/threads/2018-gt-vs-gtl.173826/
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STAR 2022 Cape Girardeau, Missouri / Re: STAR 2022 Registration Link
« Last post by bcd on January 18, 2022, 01:28:20 PM »
Registered.
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Not being a smart ass but, have you been to a BMW dealer?? In person would be a better way to evaluate the differences. I fully understand where you are coming from. That is a lot of moola so you want to choose wisely.  Check with the online magazines and look for road tests or compares that have the stats. Read, read, read. Gain all the info you can.  my .02,  TM
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check out this website https://cycle-ergo.com/. Unfortunately it covers the K1600 only through 2013 but it is likely BMW has not changed the basic frame designs since then.
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Much appreciate! Currently, I am a “sport tourer”, not a “SPORT tourer”; but may have a desire to get to be one in the future. I do plan to upgrade the seat either way. I would love to understand, in inches, how different the handlebar and foot pegs positions are between the two models. From what I can tell it is not too too much. The other major plus to the GTL is the low seat height of 29.5”. That in itself may swing my decision. Thanks for input.
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