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Title: Scooter trash
Post by: osufz6 on April 27, 2017, 04:17:13 pm
Let me preface by saying I was strongly encouraged to post by threat of verbal abuse. No names but the 'Bully" lives in Morganton, NC. Admit it if you own one.  I've owned several beginning with a well-used 1987 Honda Elite 150. Every time a panel was removed I had leftover hardware. Not bad for city traffic although 10" wheels are not forgiving. Needed a little more power. I moved up to a Honda Reflex 250. Sort of a min-maxi scooter. Short stints on an interstate were doable. Nice but perhaps a little more power. Enter a Yamaha Majesty 400. A modern marvel compared to the others. Much heavier than the 250. At almost 500 pounds I had to adjust to the tail wagging the dog. The step-through design came in handy following hip replacement X 2.  The best part is since very little is visible it never needs maintenance! Looking forward to TriStar next month. Great event.
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: Patmo on April 27, 2017, 04:22:57 pm
See you there!
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: HawkGTRider on April 27, 2017, 04:43:38 pm
I like scooters too, although I,ve never owned one. I've had day-long test rides on an Aprillia BV500 and a Piaggio MP3/250.
A fellow in the 2001 Iron Butt Rally rode a Honda Reflex from Madison, AL to Denali National Park and back as his choice of routes in that event.
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: NinjaBob on April 27, 2017, 08:11:27 pm
I learned to ride on a Vespa 90 on the streets of the big easy back in 66.

Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: osufz6 on April 27, 2017, 08:44:48 pm
Perhaps I'll ride the Majesty to Sparta........ Ain't gonna happen.
 

Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: Brick on April 28, 2017, 05:53:32 am
Curt! Glad you posted. Scooters are great. I have never owned one but did get the enjoyment of riding a Suzuki Burgman Executive part way across the USA. The Mad Maps ladies arranged 5 or 6 new Suzuki motorcycles to ride from San Francisco to Athens, Ga for AMA's Women in Motorcycling conference. Rob Pemble and I escorted them. I on Honda ST1100. So we traded off riding different bikes. I liked the Burgman 650. I hated the C50 and the M109... but that's me.


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Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: STLTHMSTA on April 28, 2017, 11:21:57 am
I had a '10 Honda ST150 for the Mrs. to learn to ride on. Didn't happen. So I started ridding it to work myself and it was quite a hoot. Water called, fuel injected, starts instantly and pulled away from traffic quickly up to 50 mph. Got 85 mpg's. Sold it after a couple years and sometimes wish I still had it.
Background: it was made in Italy, 16" wheels, under seat storage, only imported for a couple-3 years. Was priced kinda high when new (seems to be a Honda trait, think PC800) but I bought it second hand at a good price.   TM
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: osufz6 on April 29, 2017, 10:20:49 am
Fuel injection is the key. The old ones didn't have a conventional choke but rather a bystarter. It was a little probe controlled by a metal coil that blocked an air passage. As it warmed it contracted and retracted. Stupid. Rarely worked and made cold starts difficult. The Reflex used the same system. The Majesty, fuel injected water cooled twin cam four valve motor. Never fails to start. It was eight years old with 1600 miles when I purchased it for $2300 almost four years ago. Replaced the battery and change the oil. As soon as I sell my "spare" Fj09 I'll replace the tires. They're only 12 years old!
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: Brick on April 29, 2017, 04:34:08 pm
Only 12 years old!?! Damn!


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Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: touringman on April 30, 2017, 09:13:28 pm
Never apologize for being scooter trash!!. I've owned several scooters over the last 5 years, including a Piagio BV500, an Aprilia Scarabeo 500, and an MP3 400.I still have the Scarabeo and the MP3, and love them both. The Scarabeo has been ridden to several MSTA events, and I've had very little trouble keeping up with a mixed bag of bikes on rides. I wouldn't hesitate to ride either of these bikes across country, at freeway speeds. Long live the scoot!! Oh, they are also very comfortable. Syd  ;D
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: HawkGTRider on May 01, 2017, 02:23:50 am
And that's another reason why I like our association as much as I do. We pretty much don't care what you're riding. If it's obvious you're enjoying yourself while we all enjoy each other, it's truly all good.
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: doug mcpeek on May 01, 2017, 06:38:54 am
Scooters are fun!  Easy to push to their limits, fun to take it easy on.  I've ridden the old Honda Helix, just about every Vespa and Piaggio in the 4 stroke era and a tiny Aprilia 2 stroke 50 with bicycle-type tires that was a hoot.  Enjoyed them all.  Nothing beat the 1-off magical pink chick magnet Vespa 50, however.  Had they sold it in pink, they'd have sold a million.



Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: osufz6 on May 06, 2017, 10:49:18 am
Perhaps a Cushman Eagle. I saw one at a scooter show with a 750 Honda inline 4. It was a badass ride.
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: TN2Wheeler on May 06, 2017, 05:41:23 pm
Perhaps a Cushman Eagle. I saw one at a scooter show with a 750 Honda inline 4. It was a badass ride.
My first motor was an Eagle.
(https://ridemsta.com/mstaforums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjimrandall.net%2Fhistory%2Fmyeagle.jpg&hash=4f9ac5600aafab586582f180393817c773e9713c)
Me and my Eagle - circa 1959

Yeah, they handled like sh*t with the stock 8hp "lawn mower" motor. I kinda doubt a 50hp motor would help that much .
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: stevegrab on May 17, 2017, 05:47:38 pm
Never apologize for being scooter trash!!. I've owned several scooters over the last 5 years, including a Piagio BV500, an Aprilia Scarabeo 500, and an MP3 400.I still have the Scarabeo and the MP3, and love them both. The Scarabeo has been ridden to several MSTA events, and I've had very little trouble keeping up with a mixed bag of bikes on rides. I wouldn't hesitate to ride either of these bikes across country, at freeway speeds. Long live the scoot!! Oh, they are also very comfortable. Syd  ;D
Syd,
Is that MP3 one of those leaning scooters, where the front wheels are not locked (except at low speed)? Recall seeing one at the bike show years ago thought it was an interesting design.
 
And welcome to Curt Chevlen (AKA osufz6)
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: stevegrab on May 17, 2017, 05:49:42 pm
Perhaps a Cushman Eagle. I saw one at a scooter show with a 750 Honda inline 4. It was a badass ride.
My first motor was an Eagle.
(https://ridemsta.com/mstaforums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjimrandall.net%2Fhistory%2Fmyeagle.jpg&hash=4f9ac5600aafab586582f180393817c773e9713c)
Me and my Eagle - circa 1959

Yeah, they handled like sh*t with the stock 8hp "lawn mower" motor. I kinda doubt a 50hp motor would help that much .
Love the bad ass biker look on a scooter ;)
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: Brick on May 17, 2017, 06:54:26 pm
Perhaps a Cushman Eagle. I saw one at a scooter show with a 750 Honda inline 4. It was a badass ride.
My first motor was an Eagle.
(https://ridemsta.com/mstaforums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjimrandall.net%2Fhistory%2Fmyeagle.jpg&hash=4f9ac5600aafab586582f180393817c773e9713c)
Me and my Eagle - circa 1959

Yeah, they handled like sh*t with the stock 8hp "lawn mower" motor. I kinda doubt a 50hp motor would help that much .

Oh yea very cool! I also love the 56 Chevy behind you!


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Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: touringman on May 17, 2017, 10:51:39 pm
Hey Steve, This is the three wheel bike with the front two wheels fairly close together. They are articulated, and leaned with the bike when cornering. It is confidence inspiring to ride, and very comfortable. I don't see any negatives in the design. You can punch a button, and it will freeze in an upright  position, so that there is no need to put your feet down. Takes a little time to get used to! Syd :)
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: DirtFlier on May 18, 2017, 08:39:20 am
I viewed my DCT experience as a positive because it often required that I use dusty brain cells, too long dormant!
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: HawkGTRider on May 19, 2017, 07:56:52 am
Never apologize for being scooter trash!!. I've owned several scooters over the last 5 years, including a Piagio BV500, an Aprilia Scarabeo 500, and an MP3 400.I still have the Scarabeo and the MP3, and love them both. The Scarabeo has been ridden to several MSTA events, and I've had very little trouble keeping up with a mixed bag of bikes on rides. I wouldn't hesitate to ride either of these bikes across country, at freeway speeds. Long live the scoot!! Oh, they are also very comfortable. Syd  ;D
Syd,
Is that MP3 one of those leaning scooters, where the front wheels are not locked (except at low speed)? Recall seeing one at the bike show years ago thought it was an interesting design.
 
And welcome to Curt Chevlen (AKA osufz6)
I rode an MP3 to our annual State MSF update once a few years ago and offered test rides (part of the deal for the dealer loaning me the scooter for a long weekend). Being January, not a lot of folks had their gear with them, but the ones that did and took advantage of the test ride were pretty universally impressed. And that was the 250 version.
The wheels were close enough that you couldn't see them when astride the bike. And because they were articulated and invisible when astride the bike, you felt like you were riding a normal scooter...but knew deep down that you had twice the normal front-end contact patches for fun cornering and stopping.
I don't remember hearing much in the way of problems with these scooters. Maybe they dropped out of the product line because they were a bit quirky looking, too expensive, or you just got tired of people wanting to talk to you about them.
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: HawkGTRider on May 19, 2017, 07:58:55 am
Perhaps a Cushman Eagle. I saw one at a scooter show with a 750 Honda inline 4. It was a badass ride.
My first motor was an Eagle.
(https://ridemsta.com/mstaforums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjimrandall.net%2Fhistory%2Fmyeagle.jpg&hash=4f9ac5600aafab586582f180393817c773e9713c)
Me and my Eagle - circa 1959

Yeah, they handled like sh*t with the stock 8hp "lawn mower" motor. I kinda doubt a 50hp motor would help that much .

Jim...I love that picture!
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: NinjaBob on May 19, 2017, 12:36:21 pm
Never apologize for being scooter trash!!. I've owned several scooters over the last 5 years, including a Piagio BV500, an Aprilia Scarabeo 500, and an MP3 400.I still have the Scarabeo and the MP3, and love them both. The Scarabeo has been ridden to several MSTA events, and I've had very little trouble keeping up with a mixed bag of bikes on rides. I wouldn't hesitate to ride either of these bikes across country, at freeway speeds. Long live the scoot!! Oh, they are also very comfortable. Syd  ;D
Syd,
Is that MP3 one of those leaning scooters, where the front wheels are not locked (except at low speed)? Recall seeing one at the bike show years ago thought it was an interesting design.
 
And welcome to Curt Chevlen (AKA osufz6)
I rode an MP3 to our annual State MSF update once a few years ago and offered test rides (part of the deal for the dealer loaning me the scooter for a long weekend). Being January, not a lot of folks had their gear with them, but the ones that did and took advantage of the test ride were pretty universally impressed. And that was the 250 version.
The wheels were close enough that you couldn't see them when astride the bike. And because they were articulated and invisible when astride the bike, you felt like you were riding a normal scooter...but knew deep down that you had twice the normal front-end contact patches for fun cornering and stopping.
I don't remember hearing much in the way of problems with these scooters. Maybe they dropped out of the product line because they were a bit quirky looking, too expensive, or you just got tired of people wanting to talk to you about them.
When they first came out I "raced" one during a track day session on my SV650. We were pretty evenly matched. The other rider was about equal  or slightly quicker in pace to me. Nevertheless I was amazed I could not pull away from him.
Title: Re: Scooter trash
Post by: osufz6 on May 19, 2017, 06:52:57 pm
I've been outed.. I've ridden one. Great for slalom but I didn't find it comfortable. I believe it was a 400.