Author Topic: Ann Redner......arrangement details  (Read 24153 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline donmoe

  • MSTA Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 175
  • Karma: +1/-0
  • Enjoying retirement by traveling by motorcycle!
    • Don Moe's Travel Website
  • Lifetime Mileage: 301,174
  • Primary Motorcycle: 2015 BMW R1200GSA, 2013 Triumph Trophy SE
Re: Ann Redner......
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2017, 12:27:08 pm »
RIP Ann!  I will certainly miss you!

I found several videos (from Jeeps) and other info about the Shafer Trail. Pretty scary in places for us acrophobiacs!

http://www.dangerousroads.org/north-america/usa/591-shafer-trail-road-usa.html

https://youtu.be/li7d-PEb4XU    (2 mins)

https://youtu.be/yMMP2pSDLHk    (26 mins, best part starts ~4 mins in)

Here's a helmet-cam view riding a Triumph Explorer (7 mins):
https://youtu.be/iFUgx5eiMNI

And a Dual-Sport ride (14 mins). Also do read author's comment:
https://youtu.be/m39No89o-Ug

I would definitely not attempt this road alone!

     Don



2015 BMW R1200GSA                  2004 BWM R1150RT (sold)
2013 Triumph Trophy SE               1981 KZ1000 (sold)
2010 Concours 14 ABS (wrecked)  1974 Z1 (sold)
2008 Concours 14 ABS (traded)     1973 H1 (traded)

Offline normkern

  • MSTA Executive Committee
  • *****
  • Posts: 331
  • Karma: +24/-0
  • Norm Kern
  • Lifetime Mileage: 900k
  • Primary Motorcycle: '16 Yamaha FJR 1300 ES
Re: Ann Redner......
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2017, 02:05:04 pm »
Turns out the accident occurred on Potash road SW of Dead Horse Point.

Updated info from Michael Jones: "The man who was with her issued a statement and he said the potash road soon after it turned dirt and rough." Based on this more detailed information, this is what I see...

Allan Skinner, Tim Zimmer and I rode Potash road many times as a more fun way to get to the White Rim trail, so I know that road pretty well. From the main road north out of Moab, Potash road goes west along the north shore of the Colorado river. It's paved until it reaches the potash plant, then turns to rocks, gravel and dirt. It winds around the potash evaporation pools, then heads west toward the White Rim trail. I remember several places where the road passes near cliffs, most of which are about 150 feet high. (using the Google distance measuring tool.)

Looking on the 3D Google map and following potash road, I located the first cliff, and it turns out to be a bit southwest of Dead Horse Point as stated in the description. You can see the location marked with the arrow in the first screen grab. The second grab is zoomed in in 3D mode. The road itself is rocky here- not just gravel. It's also a right hand bend with the dropoff on the outside of the bend. CAN'T SAY for sure that it happened here, but there's only a couple more cliffs next to the road between here and where Potash road joins White Rim trail. The apex of the curve is right where the 142 tag had to place itself in the screen grab. I will link the Google Maps page below for those who want to explore.

IMHO, Potash road is a much more understandable place for the accident to occur.

Here's a link to the google map for those who want to look around.

Norm Kern
« Last Edit: October 20, 2017, 02:06:35 pm by normkern »

Offline BMWKeith

  • MSTA Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 38
  • Karma: +8/-0
  • Lifetime Mileage: 813,000
  • Primary Motorcycle: R1200GS
Re: Ann Redner......
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2017, 12:13:20 am »
Norm, I believe that this is a picture of the crash site as posted by Ann's riding buddy on his Facebook page.  Does that fit with what you remember of the place you describe?
Keith D.
Pentwater, MI
R1200GS, S1000R, CBR600F4i

Offline normkern

  • MSTA Executive Committee
  • *****
  • Posts: 331
  • Karma: +24/-0
  • Norm Kern
  • Lifetime Mileage: 900k
  • Primary Motorcycle: '16 Yamaha FJR 1300 ES
Re: Ann Redner......
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2017, 08:52:39 am »
Norm, I believe that this is a picture of the crash site as posted by Ann's riding buddy on his Facebook page.  Does that fit with what you remember of the place you describe?

I know that spot. Fell down there once and bent my rear brake lever. It's on the way to Chicken Corners, which is on the South side of the Colorado River. Trail is wide there and there is no big dropoff. I can probably find a pic or two of that location from my collection.

Ann's crash was on the North side of the river, probably at the location shown in my post above.

Norm Kern

Offline Patmo

  • MSTA Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1595
  • Karma: +66/-2
Re: Ann Redner......arrangement details
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2017, 11:05:31 am »
Anyone wishing to attend that lives in the Cincinnati area or north and needs a ride, please let me know.  I plan to atttend (weather permitting) and will drive up the morning of the 16th.

Pat M
not all that wander are lost

Offline stevegrab

  • MSTA Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1342
  • Karma: +36/-3
  • Lifetime Mileage: 130,000+
  • Primary Motorcycle: 2014 VFR
Re: Ann Redner......arrangement details
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2017, 12:48:12 pm »
In case the details didn't make it to the forum, here's what my brother gave me as posted on FB.

There will be a service for Ann on Saturday Dec 16, at Orchard Lake Community Church, 5171 Commerce Rd, West Bloomfield, Mi 48324.

Visitation will start at 10am with a service at 11am.

All who knew Ann that wants to come and celebrate the life of Ann, are welcome!
Steve Grabowski
2014 Interceptor, 98 VFR, 99 Triumph Sprint ST, 06 Ninja 650

Offline Bermuda Ron

  • MSTA Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 52
  • Karma: +3/-0
  • Primary Motorcycle: 2006 Triumph Sprint ST 1050
Re: Ann Redner......arrangement details
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2017, 12:10:41 pm »
Just now seeing this . . . OMG.  My prayers will include Ann's loved ones.
Ron Campbell, MSTA Member
Somerset, Bermuda & Mills River, NC USA
Husqvarna TR650 Terra "Annie" my red-headed orphan; Triumph Sprint ST 1050; Kawasaki Vulcan 1600; Daelim S1
Riding out of Mills River, NC in the heart of Motorcycle Heaven!

Offline Patmo

  • MSTA Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1595
  • Karma: +66/-2
Re: Ann Redner......arrangement details
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2017, 08:50:38 pm »
Bump and reminder that this is coming up this next Saturday the 16th of December.  I hope that many MSTA people are able to make it.
not all that wander are lost

Offline Brick

  • MSTA Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1494
  • Karma: +35/-2
  • Lifetime Mileage: 793,844
  • Primary Motorcycle: 2020 BMW R1250GS
Re: Ann Redner......arrangement details
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2017, 05:29:39 pm »
I so wish I could attend!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Brick
2020 BMW R1250GS
1999 Suzuki SV-650