I have some good bilt winter pants, they are a bit bulky and not terribly stylish but they are the ONLY pair of pants I have ever owned that are 100% waterproof. Stayed dry through four days of steady rain (in New York, Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine, by the way
) No big logos stenciled, just small, discreet rubber labels on the pocket flaps.
I'll be upgrading to KLIM soon as I win the lottery